Wednesday, March 05, 2014

Lenten reflection - transcendental blogging

As His Grace's blog approaches eight years old, it is time to reflect on the transcendental purpose, commune with the sacred, recuperate and renew. Lent is a good time to do this.

It is strange to think that from very humble beginnings in 2006 (two or three visitors a day), this blog now has been read by more than five million people from almost every country in the world. Over the past six months alone, at one end 322,218 have visited from the UK and 61,520 from the US; at the other end, 184 have come from the Holy See; one from Somalia, and another from Burundi.

The UK breakdown is itself interesting: Westminster leads with 56,944; Walsall and Orkney had just one solitary reader. Two have visited from Limavady, but His Grace doesn't know where that is. Bless you, anyway.

The citations and commendations in the sidebar give a potted history of highlights over the years, from Guido Fawkes' initial swipe, to early plaudits from Blogfather Iain Dale, an award from ConservativeHome, and sundry honours and insults from the great and the good. It has been both trauma and a lot of fun: some posts have been reviled; others have circled the earth in a few hours to very great acclaim. Some have taken hours of crafting, to little effect; others just five minutes, with expansive reach and seemingly profound effect. His Grace's 'appearance' on BBC Question Time was a particular highlight. But it brought nowhere near as much joy as raising £2,400 for Barber Biber.

In this ever-secularising, moral-relativising age, we have together sought spiritual truth and theological meaning. Some chat threads develop into masterful dialogues of profound theo-political insight and philosophy; others fall by the wayside. This blog would be nothing without its readers and regular communicants, and, although some of you occasionally irritate beyond what would be polite to say, you have become family in His Grace's cyber-cathedral; you are loved and appreciated. When one leaves or dies to face judgment, we grieve (currently with 322 comments). Whether you believe or not, there is a polite acceptance that this blog is Christian and tries to glorify the name of Christ. Yet atheists and secularists visit, read and discuss. It is unashamedly Church of England, yet Roman Catholics abound. Whether you agree or not, there is a qualified recognition that it inclines toward a conservative view of the world, if not always Conservative, and so we argue and agree to disagree, just like the House of Bishops.

Together we have tried to make sense of the divine, wade through socio-political chaos, and mutter truth to power. For some, this has been an enlightening labour of love; for others it has been fanaticism, injustice and bigotry.

What His Grace has learned is that this age has dispensed with its guardians of truth and judges of morality, for all values are now subordinate to individual subjective whim: those who contend against the fashionable truth of another - even though it be founded upon a lie - transgress the objective truths of cultural and moral relativism, which have become immutable dogma and infallible doctrine. Such is the 'postmodern' spirit of the age.

This blog is flagging and dated: not, His Grace hopes, in content, but certainly in format. If the medium is the message, the transcendental dimension of this mission is labouring under the weight of otiose technology. Other bloggers are extending their borders and surpassing His Grace not so much because they expound greater insight or better truth, but because they have adopted a higher-tech vernacular.

Lent is not only the time to sacrifice and discipline; it is the time for reflection and self-reflection. If His Grace is to continue devoting so much energy to theological lectures, political homilies and musings of fellowship, this blog must fall into the ground and die. Only then can it bring forth more fruit.

WordPress calls, as does Disqus comment capability with enhanced Twitter and Facebook interface. There might even be an app. Eight years is a long time in technological terms, and redesign has become an imperative.

These things cost: His Grace has no millionaire shareholders or benevolent philanthroposits.

If every visitor today were to donate just £1 to His Grace's Collection Plate, that would do it. But it doesn't work like that, for everyone almost without exception inclines toward the belief that content should be free. And (unlike the Times and Telegraph and ever-extending MSM paywalls), it remains so. For those who are interested, the advertising banners pay for His Grace's Christmas turkey. But since they appeared, offerings to His Grace's Collection Plate have diminished greatly. Perhaps it is time to depart MessageSpace. His Grace shall ponder over Lent.

If the labourer is worthy of his wages, the blogger must at least be worthy of a few quid to upgrade, revamp and overhaul. Otherwise the steeple will fall to ruin, and this pulpit succumb to the worm that dieth not.

Bless you all.

307 Comments:

Blogger genghis said...


Tut, tut, Your Grace,

"Two have visited from Limavady"

Everyone knows that this city is obviously the second city of Lima.

5 March 2014 09:10  
Blogger Len said...

Your esteemed blog is certainly worth more than a few quid in the collection plate Y G.
Consider it done....

5 March 2014 10:16  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Good Lord ! What is that above me?

Nice one Len. You still need a hat thought to be complete.

*chuckle*

Your Grace

Limavady is a small town in County Londonderry. Happy Jack has never been there but he knows a man, who knows a man ...

Jack will go busking over the next few days and whatever he raises he shall bung in your kitty.

5 March 2014 10:23  
Blogger Alan said...

I'm probably the one visitor from Walsall - though my churchy blog visits tend to be at the (traditional) other end of the C of E spectrum or to those not lost but gone before to the other bank of the Tiber.
Beaten by Limavady - strewth!

5 March 2014 10:56  
Blogger John Wrake said...

YG,

Not wishing to see the collapse of any building founded on the Rock, I would like to add my mite to the collection, but cannot find the plate.

Do you operate the time-honoured system of a hole-in-the-wall into which pennies can be posted by the passer-by? If you do, please notify the location.

I would be loath to see this building disappear, but am sure that any collapse will not be due to 'dry rot'!

John Wrake.

5 March 2014 11:19  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Dr Mr Wrake,

Bless you.

His Grace's Collection Plate is top right of the blog - "Donate".

All electronic: it cannot accept gold ingots.

5 March 2014 11:22  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

Congratulations, Your Grace, and may you carry on transgressing for many Lents to come.

P.S. Nice selfie, Len!

5 March 2014 12:04  
Blogger Corrigan said...

As you know, good Catholic boys do not donate to the spread of heresy, so it is with regret that I decline to help your work, Cranmer. While I have your attention, perhaps as a digital warrior, you'll be in a position to help me with a technical problem. While making a donation to the Confraternity of St Peter, an arch-Catholic organization dedicated to the Tridentine Mass, and another to Wings Over Scotland, a very active Scots Nationalist site dedicated to ending the Union, somebody using your name appeared on my Paypal account and trousered a tenner. I can't think how such a thing could have happened, but I'm sure if you find the scoundrel, you'll tap his claret on my behalf.

5 March 2014 12:17  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Well done and thank you Your Grace for eight turbulent, successful and informative years.

Your pulpit is undoubtedly well worth material support, so I'll be happily throwing my shekels in the electronic collection plate.

Nice pic Len ! Must get one.

5 March 2014 12:36  
Blogger r33per said...

YG,

I discovered this blog a couple of years ago. The articles published by you and your guest writers - as well as comments from the flock - have given me cause to pause as I consider the outworking of my faith.

I try to visit at least once each day, so that will have included the few days that I spent working in Kirkwall, Orkney this past year. It's nice to be one of your statistics :)

God bless you and may He clearly guide you as you seek how to best serve Him, His people and His Gospel.

r33per

5 March 2014 13:05  
Blogger The Way of Dodo said...

Archbishop

I hope you will allow me to add my congratulations on your 8th anniversary.

Although no longer a member of your 'band of brothers and sisters', I do still read your posts and the comments of others. My life has been more peaceful since I ceased pestering you here, as has your blog.

I wish you well as you shift your ashes over to WordPress. With this embrace of the latest technology, do not go 'modernising' or becoming too 'progressive'. Old wine in new bottles - and all that.

5 March 2014 13:15  
Blogger William Lewis said...

Corrigan

You need to think out of the box. What better way to stem the heretical flow for a good 'ol Catholic boy than by commenting on Cranmer's blog? From Limavady to Walsall (not to mention Kent) people could finally start to see the error of their ways. You should be paying in to this endeavour not freeloading. It's not as if you are really Scottish anyway. ;)

5 March 2014 13:17  
Blogger William Lewis said...

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5 March 2014 13:17  
Blogger Corrigan said...

No, maybe I'm not Scottish, William; I just like winding up arch Tories.

5 March 2014 13:35  
Blogger William Lewis said...

I see. One does wonder how many arch Tories would be wound up were Scotland to leave the UK. Could be another strategic error on your part. Have you thought this through?

5 March 2014 13:49  
Blogger Unknown said...

Sir,
Paypal is not accepting donations to your collection plate from the United States, a function of its website not establishing the correct address form for a one-off payment. I have called them, they acknowledge the problem, but will they fix it? You need to give them a hard time and consider switching to a more effective payment processor. A condundrum, I know. Can't get the money to change to change the website because the website can't get the money. I do wish you continued success.

5 March 2014 13:58  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Oh, I rarely think things through, William. Takes all the fun out of life.

5 March 2014 14:00  
Blogger grumpyoldcl said...

May I point out that Disqus doesn't actually work for many users on PCs.

It will probably work better in years to come than it does now. Therefore may I respectfully ask Your Grace to strike Disqus from the list for the moment until the technology improves.

5 March 2014 14:52  
Blogger grumpyoldcl said...

May I point out that Disqus doesn't actually work for many users on PCs.

It will probably work better in years to come than it does now. Therefore may I respectfully ask Your Grace to strike Disqus from the list for the moment until the technology improves.

5 March 2014 14:53  
Blogger Len said...

Didn`t know Catholics were allowed to have 'fun' Corrigan.?..

See that bird is back ..where my shotgun?

5 March 2014 14:54  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

Ahrite boy, getaway sure what ye slabberin bout not knowing Limavady? Ye boulin sammat fierce.

5 March 2014 14:58  
Blogger William Lewis said...

Goodness!

Len has turned into a lion; a dodo has risen from the flames and AiB has been at the sauce. Where are Mrs Proudies Hobnobs when you need them?

5 March 2014 15:12  
Blogger Len said...

A hobnob anyone?.

5 March 2014 15:26  
Blogger William Lewis said...

Five a day, Len? I think some of the Catholics may have given them up for Lent.

5 March 2014 15:40  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Len,

Please try to rouse our gracious west country lady, because I am desperate for a hobnob !

5 March 2014 15:52  
Blogger Corrigan said...

No fun, Len? What do you think the Inquisition was all about?

5 March 2014 17:17  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Your Grace

Ernst saw, heard the calling and dropped a fiver in your plate.

The thought of life without YG is too scary to contemplate so I ransacked me DLA pittance for the neccesary..Until recently, old Ernst's two joys were watching Frankel run and reading YG's Blog. I've lost one to retirement..to lose two would be devastating, mind you, the offspring of Frankel should be due shortly, so that enjoyment of equinnine perfection might be resumed again, to see what the old fellows kin are made of.

Ernst trusts and hopes that IDS and DWP do not see this donation as a disabled old scrounger with too much money to waste, so my benefit/pittance must be re-evaluated by those nice people at ATOS?

Keep on enlightening old Ernst and all here, YG.

Old Ernst

ps

If you could find the time to include me in your prayers it would be much appreciated as Ernst is approaching DLA for mobility scooter (It would be an indispensable blessing!) that would improve me quality of life as I can't walk far anymore.

Pps

No Quid Pro Quo is implied by donation for prayer *Giggles*

5 March 2014 17:26  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Corrigan @ 12:17

Think of it as the Donatist heresy.

5 March 2014 17:33  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...



Archbishop, as you are quite aware, it is 1914 in Inspector Towers, and the Inspector is loathe to put his steam laptop contraption through the rigors of whatever, and for a very good reason. He is subject to occasional phishing attempts originating from the Dark Continent and Imperial Russia. It can only be a matter of time before they succeed and rob blind yours truly, to leave a fellow to fester on the National Assistance. Consequently, to prevent his aforementioned precious device from exploding with the grief of betrayal to its master resultant of such an occurrence, the Inspector proposes this…

He will draw upon his account, trusting his bank not having failed in the meantime, a sum equivalent to that which would secure the services of an acceptable bottle of single malt, using a means of conveyance rather popular in the previous century, although unknown to schoolchildren of the present. To wit, a cheque.

An address sir, if you will. Lambeth palace, perhaps ? As a siren beacon for the Anglican church and the present incumbent of the palace therein, they might afford you that convenience, don’t you think ?

One awaits your design…





5 March 2014 18:02  
Blogger Nobody's Business said...

Thank you, your Grace, for your continued attempts at enlightening your readers. Though 'tis pity Satan rules this world.

5 March 2014 18:06  
Blogger Len said...

Don`t open your wallet Inspector and let loose a swarm of moths dust and cobwebs......

Store your treasure in Heaven ....

5 March 2014 18:26  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Hope the collection goes well.

Quick update on the past Legoland article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-26453576

5 March 2014 18:36  
Blogger Sister Tiberia said...

Have dropped my mite in your collection plate, YG. God bless.

5 March 2014 19:39  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Len, always imagined you more a Freddy Parrot Face than Lenny the Lion...

Dodo. The beaters have now withdrawn if you wish to make a fresh appearance. “Number ten cartridge somebody. He’s headed for the pot, don’t you know. Don’t want to vaporise the blighter.”

5 March 2014 20:24  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Goodness! It seems there are voices in the wilderness crying out for hobnobs! I will dispatch a box immediately to each and every one of you. I shall also sort out a donation to His Grace's noble cause as soon as My Lord the Bishop returns to The Palace with his credit card...oh the trouble I have with a joint account! Barchester salutes you, dear Archbishop.

5 March 2014 20:30  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Hope every bit helps, YG.

Donated.

5 March 2014 20:31  
Blogger Ars Hendrik said...

Will ask an accomplice ego to forward you a few English pounds (and despite being a Catholic, Corrigan).

Is this a long term solution for you though? I wonder if the Archbishop needs to step back into his glorious past, releasing his alter ego to continue his good work.

5 March 2014 22:04  
Blogger David Roseberry said...

I gave as much as I could without it appearing that I was trying to buy an indulgence or two. Then the exchange rate hit and I saw how meager it seemed.

I'm a fan.

5 March 2014 23:47  
Blogger David Kavanagh said...

Your Grace,

I shall arrange for the 'Elders' to deposit a Shequel or two into your collection fund.

5 March 2014 23:55  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Mrs Proudie
I was once offered a hobnob by a Prince of Darkness who thought he was offering me homeland food ( the sceptered isle and other Eden which he had been cast out of)
I had never heard of them.
Anyway I have given up such things for Lent, Buddhist Lent and much longer.
I can only offer his Grace a few Ticals. I am unsure of whether his paypal account will accept them.

6 March 2014 03:19  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Mrs Proudie @ 20.30

Mercy preserve us ! Thank you Mrs Proudie.

The relief force made it through this morning to our humble corner of Suffolk. The hobnobs have arrived in abundance and all is very well again.

Could you ask His Lord the Bishop to use his undoubted influence with the Liturgical Commission to work something suitable about the blessed biscuits into the approved liturgy - something about spiritual sustenance perhaps ? I'll leave it to those more gifted in such matters.

6 March 2014 08:58  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Ah dear David, are you referring to the Holy Hobnobs of Antioch?

6 March 2014 12:26  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

I must say I do like His Grace's new halo...very fetching. Does this mean a heavenly promotion by any chance?

6 March 2014 12:26  
Blogger Peter C said...

Do you accept Bitcoins - I have mined a few fractions and would willingly donate them.

6 March 2014 12:50  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Mrs Proudie @ 12.26

Indeed I am dear lady ! That's it, Antiochian Hobnobs - truly blessed biscuits !

6 March 2014 12:59  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie and Mr Hussle

Happy Jack has had to adopt his 'snake eyed' look.

Jack has achieved a 'via media' over the vexatious matter of hobnobs versus plain chocolate digestives. Now you are upsetting the proverbial with this claim of tradition for hobnobs. Jack has received a counter-claim that plain chocolate digestives have a provenance dating to pre-Antioch Jerusalem.

This matter must now be settled by convening a special Synod of Barchester. Beforehand, there will be a pastoral letter encouraging a "conversation" in the parishes.

Until there is a settled and agreed position, please do not assert primacy for one biscuit over another. This remains a mater for personal judgement. We must all work hard to avoid a schism over this.

6 March 2014 14:51  
Blogger Rasher Bacon said...

Yer Grace

What happened? For the advancement of social science, what was the Income over Visitors yield yesterday?

Has it gone up today? Is there a nice Anglican church roof type thermometer we can watch?

Looking forward to the new format already...

6 March 2014 15:10  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Dr Mr Bacon,

His Grace thanks you for your enquiry. He isn't going to bother with a steeple-saving thermometer. But, in answer to your question, there were 2,132 visitors yesterday, each donating an average 19.3p.

A further 898 have visited today, with an average donation of 10.9p.

He is some way off his re-design, and may simply issue refunds.

6 March 2014 15:22  
Blogger Thomas Keningley said...

Your Grace,

I'm sure it would help for people to know around how much the redesign would cost and how close you were to reaching that amount. It would give more of a sense of purpose and goal- just a target and current amount would do.

6 March 2014 15:35  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Keningly,

With His Grace's comment above and the original post, for those who can "do the math", all the information is disclosed.

6 March 2014 15:38  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Happy Jack is not meaning to be crass but His Grace needs roughly two 'bags of sand' for the rebuilding works, give or take a 'mother hen'.

Thus far, a 'monkey' has been donated. People need to put the recommended 'squid' in to hit the mark. Instead, its averaging out at just below an 'oxford'.

In short, more 'sausage and mash' is needed.

6 March 2014 16:16  
Blogger Rasher Bacon said...

Hmm.. 2,132 visitors per diem.

If this is average (average probably higher for less demanding topics), around £2,500 for the redesign, which sounds not unreasonable given the archives.

At £509.36 so far, it's not a bad start, we just need the March bonuses to come through, or someone to come up with a cheaper non-timewasting solution.

..Or someone to sneak into St Peters and liberate a bit of bling, but I get the impression the RCs have been quite helpful as a denomination already. Time to goad the Prods.

6 March 2014 16:29  
Blogger Rasher Bacon said...

Happy Jack - you put it so much more delicately than I did.

6 March 2014 16:36  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Rasher, Happy Jack was deliberately obtuse so as not to cause His Grace embarrassment.

Jack wonders if Roman Catholics are donating because they believe in the efficacy and necessity of "good works"?

Jack has made a lot of friends since joining this blog and would not like to see it suffer for lack of proper support in its time of need. If Old Blowers can cough up, so can others.

6 March 2014 16:45  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Archbishop Cranmer @ 15.22

Have faith Your Grace.

As Dr Mr Bacon above says, "it's not a bad start".

Fear Not, Providence will provide I suggest.

6 March 2014 16:48  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Happy Jack @ 14.51.

Although I have no intention of attending any future "facilitated conversations", the matters being, in my opinion, theologically very plain and clear, I will with pleasure agree to attend your eminently helpful discussions at Barchester regarding the primacy of various types of vestry biscuits.

Indeed I would be indebted if you could spell my surname on the invitation cards in it's correct letter order, with the last vowel, an "e". before the last two letters, please. Thank you. Experts tell me that the name may be derived from a 9th C Anglo-Saxon Cheshire area dialect meaning, man who lives near a hazel tree, an amusing possibility so forgive me, if I am a little over - protective of it.

Your "snake eyed" look makes you appear very deep and thoughtful I suggest, but don't stop being happy as we rely greatly on it here.

6 March 2014 17:07  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Archbishop Cranmer said...

He is some way off his re-design, and may simply issue refunds. "

Please keep my little offering and Ernst will see what he can manage monthly from what he gets from his likkle stipend from DWP to live/survive on.

We all (Well, Ernst did) thought you must be raking it in from the ad banner?

Perhaps supplying useful e-books may help reach the target, as well as ads from Infolinks, Chitika, or Kontera rather than relying solely on Google AdSense!.


E S Blofeld

6 March 2014 17:54  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mr Hussell (man who lives near a hazel tree), please forgive Happy Jack's misspelling of your ancient and colourful name. Jack was so alarmed by the prospect of schism, he quite forgot himself.

Invitations will be issued for the eagerly anticipated Synod of Barchester as soon as the Cathedral is made ready. This will examine the respective merits of claims for the primacy of the principle types of vestry biscuits. Evidence concerning formulae, recipes and ingredients will be considered and ancient texts consulted.

Who to chair this Synod? One fears Mrs Proudie may, unintentionally,, exercise undue influence should we invite Her Lordship to so.

One plea. Do please reconsider the merit of local "conversations". It is important we capture a sense of popular preference over this issue and that this is captured and represented at said gathering.

Alternatively, we could just make a quick decision, have done with it and provide decisive leadership.

6 March 2014 17:58  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

"but I get the impression the RCs have been quite helpful as a denomination already. Time to goad the Prods."

I get the impression that the RCs have been quite good at telling us that they're helpful. Perhaps the Prods simply don't advertise.

6 March 2014 17:59  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Belfast, Happy Jack, having carefully researched the matter, suggests your observation is not justified. Jack can discern no noticeable difference between the denominations in declaring donations.

6 March 2014 18:16  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

.... except perhaps Calvinists, who presumably are relying exclusively on Divine Providence.

*chuckle*

6 March 2014 18:18  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

Happy Jack:

Of the posts that were made, yes. But the numbers posted by His Grace above do not look like they easily correlate with 60 (now 61) comments unless everyone is exceptionally generous, not to mention that some of them are from the same person (and that's before we consider the possibility of multiple personas eh?).

6 March 2014 18:24  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Belfast, Happy Jack says we are agreed then that the matter remains shrouded.

6 March 2014 18:34  
Blogger William Lewis said...

Your Grace

Ernsty makes a good point re small monthly contributions - though he is probably the last person to be contributing. Perhaps if enough people made small, regular contributions a war chest could be built for contingencies such as this? I noticed there was an option for regular contributions on your collection plate, though it might have been PayPal specific.

6 March 2014 18:41  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Dear Mr Lewis,

Since yesterday, two readers have opted to do precisely that.

He assures everyone that he is not "raking it in" with MessageSpace ads.

6 March 2014 18:43  
Blogger Len said...

Having recently experimented with a website which had ad`s on banners much as His Grace has I can assure people that the return from these ads is abysmal.
So much so that I closed my own site down..
To donate a monthly amount seems a good option to build up a fund.

6 March 2014 18:54  
Blogger Rasher Bacon said...

AiB - Perhaps that's so. Goading prods is merely an idle play on words, although Paul did stir a few people up to good works. Secrecy is good as long as it too doesn't become a source of pride, perhaps?

6 March 2014 19:44  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Ha! Good oul yourself, AIB; still banging that lambeg drum and wishing it were papish skulls, eh? Don't you just love Protestant logic?

A - Catholics are evil;
B - Lying is evil, therefore;
C - Catholics are liars.

Can't beat a bit of deductive reasoning, can you?

6 March 2014 19:54  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Well, a donation has been made Your Grace, in my Lord Bishop's name but really from me...I have to say I am so glad Happy Jack ha gone back to his normal avatar persona - the snake eyed on was most disconcerting. Apropos of nothing, I have just discovered my great uncle was at Cuddesdon College in 1913...the archivist very kindly send me a copy of the end of year photograph...made my day!

6 March 2014 19:57  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

snake eyed one...

6 March 2014 19:58  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Corrigan, don't be too hard on Belfast. In case you didn’t know, he is an Englishman who married in up there. However, that said, and for his education, he might want to review the Wiki entry on Bobby Sands, and what made a decent young fellow like him starve himself to death. It's rather shocking...

6 March 2014 20:11  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Len, what was the name of your site ?

“I was Jesus Christ’s batman” by any chance ?

6 March 2014 20:14  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Happy Jack,

Your understandable, easy to make spelling error has been instantly forgotten. Thank you.

Also I am delighted that you have reverted to your previous smily Happy Jack face - it suits you, Sir.

Now the tricky question of who to Chair the Great Biscuit Synod of Barchester. Bias must be avoided at all costs.
Now as this is an Anglican Synod, I assume, since there's not been an ecumenical one for a very long time (Church historians please advise), apart from Luther and his Diet of Worms, or perhaps the Synod of Whitby. To ensure total impartiality we require a fair minded, upright sort of chap from another denomination.
Now let's get location specific, and practical. Barchester is not that far from, from Gloucester, which is just about West Country, and there resides the man for the job, our very own, semi-judicial Inspector ! He would be champion, having the perfect CV to fit the Job Description (and all that bullshit) and with more than sufficient sense, humour, decisiveness and dare I say, incisiveness.

What do you think Happy Jack. if you agree we'll put the idea to him, but keep it quiet, under wraps, until then. Mum's the word.

6 March 2014 20:15  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Archbishop Cranmer,

The regular monthly donation idea, proposed by William Lewis, seconded by Len, chimes with me. Accumulate a contingency, that's the ticket !

6 March 2014 20:21  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

The Synod of Barchester? The Great Biscuit/wafer debate of 2014? Goodness! Well all delegates are welcome to be accommodated at The Palace, it goes without saying. We can always put a few extra up at Hiram's Hospital as long as folk doing mind sharing a tressle with an elderly ex-wool carder. Mr Slope is ready to lend a hand to anybody who needs it (am sure there's an innuendo in there somewhere. Dr. Spacely-Trellis has offered to talk about the post-Beeching privatisation of the Stations of the Cross and Mary Berry on the Great British Wafer Bake-in. I hope Happy Jack will bring his guitar to lead us all in Kumbaya...of even Fog on the Tyne...

6 March 2014 20:28  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

Corrigan:

"A - Catholics are evil;
B - Lying is evil, therefore;
C - Catholics are liars."

Yep, none of that in anything I've ever posted, but don't let that stop you.

6 March 2014 20:40  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Shocking early life, one agrees Inspector and yet:

"Mr. Sands was a convicted criminal. He chose to take his own life. It was a choice that his organisation did not allow to many of its victims."
(Margaret Thatcher)

6 March 2014 20:42  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

As Bertie Stanhope is oft to say, 'Sometimes all you need is a good shag.' That meerschaum will get him into trouble one day I'll warrant...

6 March 2014 20:46  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie, goodness me, Happy Jack nearly fell off his seat when he read, "snake eyed one..." At first he thought the words were ordered differently having read them backwards.

Happy Jack is thrilled the Cathedral will host 'The Great Biscuit Synod of Barchester'. Jack will certainly bring his guitar and brush up on a few suitable songs. Do please try to keep 'Slippery Slope' away from Jack.

David Hussell, Happy Jack greatly admires the Inspector's ability to get to the heart of a matter and his willingness to make quick, tough decisions. However, Jack believes the contentious nature of this matter requires someone with diplomatic skills and the capacity to consider alternative points of view. In Jack's short time here, he observes the Inspector has a tendency to divide opinion. One wonders if the Explorer's or Old Jim's services might be sought.

6 March 2014 20:59  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

"post-Beeching privatisation of the Stations of the Cross....

*chuckle*

6 March 2014 21:01  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

But dear Happy Jack, Mr. Slope has expressed a keen interest in examining your maracas...how can you disappoint him?

6 March 2014 21:07  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Thanks for the heads-up on AIB, Inspector; I feel I understand him much better now. After all, it must be terribly isolating for him up there - Ulster Protestants hate the English almost (although not quite as much) as they do us.

6 March 2014 21:10  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie, Happy Jack replies that all his instruments are off-limits.

Jack's has experience of pests like Slope. His type seem particularly fascinated with his blues harp. One plays it by placing ones lips over holes in the instrument and blowing and sucking.

6 March 2014 21:16  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Dear Corrigan, of course the Ulster Prots hate the English - they are Scots infused with Calvinism. Everybody hates the English these days...sigh...and all we wanted to was bring peace and order to the world (just like our Moslem friends do now)

6 March 2014 21:17  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

Corrigan:

Given that your understanding is based on whatever stereotype it occurs to you to project, I wouldn't go bragging too quickly.

If you learn that I have Scottish relatives, I'm sure you'll be quick to seize on some form of pecuniary restraint. I mean - imagine what we'd get if you learnt I had Carribbean relatives!

Anyway - any time you feel you need a performing canvas for your bete noires, and there are no available Israelis, feel free to give me a call.

6 March 2014 21:19  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Ah dear Jack, you wandering minstrels know more about these things than a mere bishop's wife...fiddling is more your forte than mine, but fiddling with what may I ask?

6 March 2014 21:20  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack @ 20:59

I saw my name.

I am deeply honoured by the compliment, and find myself torn.

Such a profound issue probably requires the intellectual depth of Old Jim.

On the other hand, the offer of being accommodated by Mrs Proudie...

6 March 2014 21:27  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie, Happy Jack uses a gentle, rhythmic strumming movement. He never fiddles, never. Your thinking of the Roma street musicians.

6 March 2014 21:29  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Explorer, just think, man. You'd be the guest of honour and have access to all sorts of special privileges to assist you with your arduous task.

6 March 2014 21:31  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

^ you're ^

6 March 2014 21:32  
Blogger Integrity said...

Your Grace,
It is with excitement and trepidation that I anticipate your new Blog style. I may have not had much to say but your posts and the comments it draws have become a daily ritual to follow.
I would not like to see a charge to read your blog but commentators could pay for the privilege to fulfil the satisfaction of their alter egos.
BTW, Limavady is a small town between Londonderry (Derry for the left foot diggers). My 90 year old mother-in-law who lives with us, God help us, was born on a farm just outside the town.
I trust that you will continue to draw an increasing number visitors that a sound voice for Christian truth is broadcast far and wide. Just pleas keep faith that Gods will will prevail and we will see the end of SSM.

6 March 2014 21:32  
Blogger Integrity said...

Sorry, Should have said, between Londonderry and Colerain, NI.

6 March 2014 21:33  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Ah dear Happy Jack, does one have to cross the Tiber to have intercourse with the Roma? If so I am not getting my crinoline wet.

6 March 2014 21:36  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Ah Mr Explorer, should you grace us with your presence I would instruct our housekeeper to prepare the 'Francis Drake' room for you. Who could forget what he did with his Golden Behind? It's a fitting place for an explorer - why, Dame Freya Stark once erected her yurt there between the Romney and the Bosch. I asked her if she liked Grinling Gibbons and she replied, 'I don't know I've never tried.'

6 March 2014 21:41  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Happy Jack was once offered a Grinling Gibbons' relief plaque. He declined, not knowing what he was being offered.

6 March 2014 21:51  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie, silly billy. The Roma are .... oh, never mind. Besides, swimming the Tiber is no longer necessary. Nowadays most, if not all, roads lead to Rome

*chuckle*

6 March 2014 21:57  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Who could resist a direct invitation from Mrs Proudie?

In the absence of Old Jim, I shall deliberate upon this arduous matter (the biscuits and their substance, I mean: not the acceptance of the invitation) and essay a judgment in due course.

A timescale for this is indeterminate, and may depend on the extent to which Mrs Proudie proves a distraction.

6 March 2014 21:59  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Your circumspection does you credit, dear Happy Jack. Mrs Beaton knew what to do with gibbons...first you pluck 'em then boil for thirty days (along with the sprouts).

I wonder if His Grace ever regrets letting us in to his corner of the world...

6 March 2014 22:00  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack @ 21:57

Apart from which: the Roma are over here.

6 March 2014 22:01  
Blogger Integrity said...

Mrs Proudie; I have seen Mr Gibbons piece at Chatsworth. It is quite impressive. At one time we offered sconces in the style of.

Your Grace, I tried to transfer my Nectar Points but there was no provision for the said type of transfer. Noting the dismal averages, I wondered whether some had stuffed their hands into the offering bag and taken what they could get hold of. I trust for their souls sake that they were in desperate need. May God bless them in their grat need.

6 March 2014 22:01  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Dear Explorer. I had a Garibaldi once...that's all I am saying

6 March 2014 22:03  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Dear Explorer. I had a Garibaldi once...that's all I am saying

6 March 2014 22:03  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

so good I said it twice...

6 March 2014 22:04  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Mrs Proudie:

And did the reverse apply?

You see what I mean about being distracted?

6 March 2014 22:13  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Mr Integrity, I have been to Chatsworth and have seen the Gibbons, not to mention the amazing trompe l'oeil of the violin on the door, which would delight our friend Happy Jack no end I am sure. Thus inspired, I have set Mr Slope on redecorating and replastering The Palace at Barchester with the help of a foppish fellow called Llewellyn Bowen. When it comes to filling holes they swear it is all in the wrist action. I'm sure they are right.

6 March 2014 22:13  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

Goodness Mr Explorer...I am lost for words

6 March 2014 22:14  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Mrs Proudie, Happy Jack also wonders if "His Grace ever regrets letting us in to his corner of the world..." Perhaps we should desist for a time and allow Mr Explorer to contemplate the higher question of the biscuit.

6 March 2014 22:18  
Blogger Mrs Proudie of Barchester said...

His Grace has the patience of Job...

6 March 2014 22:32  
Blogger David Hussell said...

The Explorer,

In the event that you wisely decide to accept Mrs Proudie's invitation to Barchester, to chair the Great Biscuit Synod, following Happy Jack's wise discernment of your latent talents for that demanding position, could you please, firstly accept my congratulations.
Secondly, would you please note my advance notice that, though it grieves me sorely, I am leaving the case for the supremacy of Hobnobs to others to present.
Always one for the plucky underdog, I am switching my support to, the well dunked Bourbon, as the most superior vestry biscuit - that's correct, the ones that resemble a chocolate rectangle. With your kind support as (future?) Chairperson I shall present a short but powerful critique, in the form of a lectern homily, in the cause of advancing, the case for the well dunked Bourbon.
I hope, Mrs Proudie, that this change of plan doesn't appear to be disloyal, but fashions in biscuits must evolve, at least within any free society.
And with that announcement, it's Good night all from me.

6 March 2014 22:35  
Blogger Bunyip Bluegum said...

I hope the collection plate is filling during the amusing chatter.

If it isn't, is there anything we can do to ensure that our host has enough in the collection for his very worthy project?

6 March 2014 22:49  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Right, folks, here it is.

And a verdict, if I may say so - not now, Mrs Proudie! - to rival the wisdom of Solomon or Old Jim.

'Romans' 14:6.

He that eatheth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

That all the rival candidates (including the late submission by David Hussell: hear that, Mrs Proudie - submission!) are biscuits is indisputable, and let any who deny this truth be anathema.

Beyond that, it's a matter of taste.

6 March 2014 22:51  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Explorer, Happy Jack asked if you have just made an ex-cathedra ruling without considering the views of the wider biscuit eating community?

You must make this decision, if yours it be yours to make, after and not before the Great Synod. This is the path of schism throwing anathemas about.

That said, Jack congratulates you on your judgement. Just keep it under your hat until after the debate!

6 March 2014 23:16  
Blogger David Kavanagh said...

Corrigan,

From my interactions with him here and from my sister's feedback, Mr Belfast is a most intelligent, courteous and thoughtful man, who, despite his own sincere Protestant outlook, has always been at pains to be balanced when Protestant-Catholic disputes are discussed here,as well as challenging base Jew hate. It is typical of you to be, well, be typically dismissive & bombastic toward anyone and anything which does not conform to your petty and narrow worldview of religion or Roman Catholicism. I do wonder how many of your fellow Roman Catholics actually cringe when they read the utter bull, which comes totally eco friendly & directly from a cow's backside.

7 March 2014 00:26  
Blogger Pubcrawler said...

My left hand did something with Paypal, but isn't telling my right hand what.

On the biscuit question, surely it depends on the canonical hour? The low-GI oaty goodness of the hobnob will sustain one until Sext, after which the digestive is preferred.

7 March 2014 00:27  
Blogger David Kavanagh said...

Mrs Proudie,

Well personally speaking, I'd say I'm game for nibbling one of your hobnobs, regardless of providence. I shall contact the Sephardi Kashrut authority for clarification...

7 March 2014 00:35  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Pubcrawler, Happy Jack says that's a most interesting take on the biscuit issue. Mr Explorer will need to consider it fully.

David K, you must overcome your personal preference for nibbling on Mr's Proudies' hobnobs. Does the Talmud shed any light on the issue?

7 March 2014 01:13  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

David K,

What a pleasant surprise to see you on Rav Natan's blog commenting on the Hareidi "discovery of the media." The place is another home to me.

Bunyip Bluegum, would you be by any chance related to the great "Perfessor" Bunyip at the Aussie "Bunyiptitude" blog? The fellow's been AWOL since October 2013 after an apparent romantic breakup. I wonder if you know if he's alright.

7 March 2014 03:05  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Mrs Proudie
I am sure there is plenty of tea and hobnobs available after services at the Non-subscribing Presbyterian Church. Hate the English? For God's sake!

7 March 2014 03:59  
Blogger Bunyip Bluegum said...

Avi

Don't know of the "Perfesser". But, like me, he may be a distant cousin of one of a band of brothers who nobly dealt with some nefarious magic pudding thieves.

We come from a place where some left their country for their country's good. Although I now live in England.

7 March 2014 07:01  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack @ 23 16

I am duly corrected for my manner of expressing it, but I was trying to draw the distinction between what is essential belief and what is not.

7 March 2014 07:41  
Blogger William Lewis said...

I realise that this is more a discussion about tradition (storm in a teacup, some might say), but has anyone experimented with alternative forms vestry biscuit? It's amazing what can be done with chocolate these days. I have even heard rumours of caramel in some churches! Very popular with younger worshippers apparently.

7 March 2014 07:51  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack:

I nominate William Lewis for the role of arbiter.

7 March 2014 08:19  
Blogger David Hussell said...

To all whom it may concern,

Sirs, plus Mrs Proudie, Lucy Mullen and any fine, upstanding ladies that may be about,

If all here so gathered this Friday, are minded to accept the profound and considered wisdom of that esteemed Chairperson, The Explorer, as set forth @ 22.51, appertaining to the case of,
Hobnobs vs Sundry Rival Vestry Biscuits
(the latter having brought a class action),
and are prepared, on the basis of a sealed ballot, to so proceed, then I propose the following. That,

1. The legitimate concerns of Happy Jack concerning the aforesaid judgement might be a wee bit premature and previous, are NOTED.
2. That the judgement of The Explorer, as above, be entered into the great Book of Barchester, for all time, being made available to all visitors to read at all reasonable hours, particularly during The Happy Hour.
3. That all who have contributed to this erudite and nonsensical debate be well thanked, both in kind (two extra boxes of Hobnobs for all from Mrs Proudie's kitchen) and in actions, namely, hearty, fraternal slaps on the back, all round.
4. That His Grace be thanked for his extreme forbearance in the face of such provocations and utter Tomfoolery.
5. That those who have yet, not seen fit to contribute to His Grace's collection plate, promptly cough up, upon pain of something most unpleasant.

7 March 2014 08:20  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Happy Jack is (er), well, happy to second the above motion, notwithstanding his aforementioned previously expressed concerns.

7 March 2014 10:02  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack:

Old Jim is not the only one with the wisdom of Solomon.

David Hussell must be worthy of such an encomium too.

7 March 2014 10:46  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Hello, again, David.

As you know, "base Jew hate" is, of course, any disagreement of any degree by any Gentile with any Jew on any subject at any time. Since AIB has undoubtedly disagreed with you on something or other at some time or other, it axiomatically follows that he is also a "base Jew hater". Since you are here defending him, it equally follows that you yourself must be a self-hating Jew (hey, don't look at me like that; these are Zionist rules, and and if you don't like them, you shouldn't allow Zionists to cynically conflate the words "Zionist" and "Jew")

As for embarrassing my fellow Catholics, didn't you listen to the Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem? We're Gentiles, David: we only exist to serve Jews. We have no other function but to hew your wood and draw your water. Our type do not need the human sensitivity necessary to understand concepts like embarrassment. Back in the room, please.

7 March 2014 11:46  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Yes, yes..

His Grace has recanted and bunged up a renovation-fund thermometer.

Bless you for the idea.

7 March 2014 13:15  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Good man, Cranmer. Nothing like a little of that hard-headed Protestant practicality.

7 March 2014 13:32  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Corrigan:

Are you suggesting Catholics are impractical?

I don't see it. Look at the abbeys and cathedrals. (And the schemes for raising the necessary revenue.)

7 March 2014 13:47  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Quite right, Explorer. Catholicism is a very paradoxical religion: what makes us practical is our very impracticality. If we were practical, we would never have built those cathedrals because we would have thought it impractical to try. I have said on numerous occasions that Protestantism, at least on the societal level, always leads to atheism, and this is the very reason why. People declare the demands of Catholicism to be impossible and only a fool would try to fulfil them. So they stop trying. Then what happens? Practical Protestantism followed by? A lowering of the bar, followed by? Cessation of effort, followed by? Today's world. And all because Cranmer stuck a thermometer on his website.

7 March 2014 14:00  
Blogger Richard Brown said...

Oh dear! Poor old Bishop Proudie has not yet worked out how this Interweb thing works, otherwise he would be appalled at the way his good lady carries on. Not only did he have to put up with humiliation at the hands of Mrs P and the unctuous Slope, but all over again at the perfectly manicured talons of Hyacinth Bucket.

Hobnobs for the masses, indeed! Were ever such a thing known in all of Barsetshire!

7 March 2014 14:16  
Blogger Len said...

Now that's really taking the biscuit.
I could make a suggestion where that thermometer could go Corrigan.

Righteousness cannot be obtained by works that why Catholicism(and all other religions( are futile.
If we could obtain Righteousness by works then all we needed to do was to work harder.
God knew it was futile to expect man to achieve righteousness by works that`s why Jesus came to exchange our sinful nature for his Righteousness on the Cross of Calvary.


7 March 2014 14:25  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Corrigan:

I wouldn't say 'always', but it's undeniable what C S Lewis wrote to a Catholic friend about religious liberalism: "You see in Protestantism the Faith dying out in a desert."

On the other hand, when I lived in France I found rural areas vibrantly Catholic, but urban areas fiercely secular. (With exceptions on both counts.)

And that secularism can't be blamed on Protestantism.

7 March 2014 14:45  
Blogger David Kavanagh said...

Greetings Avi,

I have to admit steam was coming out of my ears when I watched the apparent 'official' Haredi vid slagging off the young men and women of IDF & other uncalled for disgraces, but our Mancurian born Rebbe's put up a brilliant counter one to that in his latest post. Methinks our brethren need to have a day with Corrigan, perhaps they'd see things differently then?

Hello Happy Jack,

Well I've contented myself with a cracker (not a Jacob's one though) and some beef to go on it. As you are now involved in the committee for vestry and after service refreshment, I can also recommend some Smaltz Herring and fine malt to compliment Mrs P's hobnobs extraordinaire.

Good afternoon Corrigan,

I just love your ability to create 'straw men' regarding what Jews think and argue. Actually it’s not all about you. There was a pain in the butt guy which my sister remembers Belfast argued with (can't remember his name) a while back. Now he was a character, who, among practical holocaust denial (only a few thousand, not millions), thinking only Messianic Jews were real Jews and binding himself to the Khazar mythology & thought blood libels were actually true. But if your mind thinks I was referring to yourself, then that's your affair. What is sad is that Belfast isn't simply a Catholic basher and to me has always been articulate and balanced in these Protestant -Catholic battles you people have here.

Oh and which 'Chief Rabbi' were you thinking of there? It doesn't really matter as our religion isn't based upon Papal diktat and a magisterium, so I'm free to ignore and argue against such ideas.... but, but you'll just have to excuse me as I'm going to task my Goy slaves with something demeaning or humiliating. Like letting them go home early to see their families and or for their manager to put a round of drinks on corporate entertainment, if the some of them want to have a wee drink as they relax into their weekends & I my Shabbat...

7 March 2014 15:16  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Happy Jack + Explorer,

The genius of what you have both done is that now we have settled the vexed question of biscuits, having noted the excellence of The Hobnobs, but also, "beyond that it's all a matter of taste", we are free to encourage other tasty additions and contributions to the vestry Tea Party, and general knees up and good time. Indeed our Jewish friends are very welcome to offer their dishes around as well, all in the interests of culinary adventure and experimentation. So in the contemporary idiom, we can move on, whatever that means.

I am also very pleased with His Grace's thermometer or barometer or whatever ometer it truly is. Because being a retired manager, and generally a highly unreasonable, remorseless and merciless slave driver, I do like a sense of accumulating achievement, as it cheers the soul and encourages even greater efforts ! So good luck with that Archbishop Cranmer. May your electronic Cathedral's offertory chants and hymns encourage an atmosphere conducive to generous donations for your collection plate.

7 March 2014 15:50  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

David Hussell, Happy Jack says we must monitor progress and ensure these decisions are understood to apply purely to non-liturgical situations.

Jack wondered what on earth the new picture on His Grace's blog was and thanks both you and he for clarifying this.

7 March 2014 16:09  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Quite the reverse, David: it is I who stand in awe of your ability to drag the Holocaust into a thread that started out with Cranmer panhandling for cash and ascended to the vital topic of the quality of hobnobs in Barsetshire. You will appreciate that as a Catholic, I admire guilt-trippers, and the more shameless, the better. I bow to you, sir.

As to which rabbi I'm talking about, google Ovadia Yosef.

7 March 2014 19:43  
Blogger David Hussell said...

On a very different note, does anyone have any advice of a practical nature (though other types are welcome) for a first time traveller to Israel ?

On Monday morning, accompanied by 35 other, mainly Suffolk, Christians our plane should be flying on its great circle route almost exactly south east towards Tel Aviv. I shall be passing the hours reading the shortest gospel, Mark, from my small travellers psalter. This was recommended as the best preparation for the "pilgrimage", if indeed one can call traveling in air conditioned planes and buses, a pilgrimage.

There are I found few useful maps of Israel available, at sensible scales for travelling, and even my usual specialist map shop in Upton on Severn, had only two types for sale. But I did secure a good, clear, simple guidebook "Go to Galilee", written by an American Jew, Jacob Firsel.

Any useful tips would be gratefully received.

7 March 2014 20:17  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Well, if you have any clergy among your number, you could tell them not to wear clerical garb, as it seems to be something of a national sport in Israel to spit at Christian clerics at the moment. And if you get any orthodox types following you around chanting "F**k your Jesus, we're glad we killed Him", best not to rise to it.

7 March 2014 20:21  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

David Hussell

Two guide books that I would warmly recommend, particularly the first:

Jerome Murphy-O'Connor, The Holy Land, in the Oxford Archaeological Guides series

Jerusalem & the Holy Land in the Dorling Kindersley Eyewitness Travel series. Excellent illustrations.

If you're going in a group, you may not have much choice about where to go, but bear in mind that a slow, leisurely drive all the way round the Sea of Galilee takes no more than (from memory) three-quarters of an hour or so. Do it twice if you can.

In Tiberias there is a string of little restaurants along the lakeside. Recommended: the St Peter's fish with a bottle of the excellent Galilean wine.

In Jerusalem, don't miss the walk through Hezekiah's water tunnel. Also, the southern steps leading up to the Huldah Gates in the southern wall of the Temple compound. The gates themselves have been walled up for centuries, but the steps, built in the Herodian period, were excavated only within the last ten years or so and are largely the original stonework. At the Israel Museum, two things not to be missed: the Shrine of the Book with the Dead Sea scrolls, and the outdoor model of Herodian Jerusalem.

If anything else occurs to me I'll jot it down. No need to mention the obvious places like Capernaum, the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth, and the Holy Sepulchre.

Enjoy your trip!

Regards,
Brian

7 March 2014 21:02  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Corrigan, you’re not putting in to be the next Patriarch of Jerusalem, by chance ?

7 March 2014 21:09  
Blogger Claudio said...

Corrigan,mo chara and fellow papist, I relly like your contributions here but this antisemitism it's, how can I put it?, bollocks. Leave it to the Bible bashers/sedevacantist/lefebvrians (you are not a lefebvrian, are you?), thanks God we are done with this b....it (does Nostra Aetate ring a bell?)and the ultraorthodox spitters you mention do really exists, but are a problem also for the average israeli citizen so...why?

( My boss's wife is a jew from Belfast; she's in the Humanist association but she told me that Belfast's jews used to support the Unionists. Is this true/is this a reason for your rants? You are wrong in any case, but just to understand the rationale behind this thing. And please don't give me the I'm against zionists not against jews thing, we both know isn't true...)
In Jesu et Maria (as we are talking about jews:)

7 March 2014 21:18  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Corrigan,

As per your usual statements you come out with the worst kind of anti-Semitic poo possible. I will tell you that I have been seriously, seriously converting to Catholicism from Anglicanism.

In actual fact I can see by your vile and reprehensible statements here I was sooo stupid to even think about such a move. I could never be in Communion with such a creature as you. I have had some wonderful discussions and debates with Anglican and Roman Catholic Clergy over the space of twelve months as well as- unbeknown to anyone else- several Rabbis (I am a quarter Jewish) .

I appreciate all of their views, I’ve tried to grasp faith, but when it comes down to practical matters, I have found my Jewish Cousins to be the most kind and non –hypocritical people; their kindness, their spirituality, their sense of humour and logical approach to the Bible is fab. I find that when I go to one of their Shabbat meals or a Synagogue that I am being more close to God than I do with Anglican or Catholic Mass. I have been thinking about all of these things for a while and to be honest I feel a sense of going toward my Jewish roots. I feel that I’d rather convert to Judaism than be with your vileness. Corrigan, THANKS TO YOU, you have put me off Roman Catholicism. Your Jew hate, you anti-Semitism, is clear for all to see.

I won’t be in communion with someone like you. Thanks for helping me to tip my spiritual journey there. I don’t know where this leads me, but it isn’t toward the Tiber, but possibly to Jerusalem and the Jewish nation.

7 March 2014 21:18  
Blogger David Hussell said...

Corrigan, Uncle Brian,

Thank you both for the advice.

I have the Dorling Kindersley guide !

7 March 2014 21:20  
Blogger Claudio said...

@ Louise;
the catholic views on Jews is here
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

the more relevant are the articles from 4 on.
This is the Magisterium. This is what we believe. Corrigan's views...are just Corrigan's views.

Corrigan,a suggestion for Easter confession:
42 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

7 March 2014 21:37  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...


My dear Louise Kavanagh. One is heartened you have been contemplating converting to the RCC, but what’s this. The foolish words of ONE man has knocked that silly ? And from a silver tongued Dublin Mick at that !

Dear thing, at your stage in development, you would be advised not to do anything life changing for now. Best retire to your bedroom, tis fast approaching 10 of the hour, and hug teddy...

7 March 2014 21:43  
Blogger Sister Tiberia said...

Louise

Take a look at this - it's from a Jesuit blog and is entitled "You might be a Catholic if..."

http://peopleforothers.loyolapress.com/2010/01/maybe-a-catholic-if/

I have to admit as a joke post, there's a huge amount of truth in it. And the point about halfway down which says "You accept that your religion has more crazy relatives than an Addams Family reunion." is so, so true. The Catholic Church is more often than not one big highly disfunctional family - and the best evidence out there that the Holy Spirit does indeed guide it is that simply anything this disfunctional which was purely human should have imploded centuries ago :)

And yet somehow the ultra traditionalists, the ultra liberal and everyone in between still end up at Mass on Sunday, publicly apologising to each other and to God for everything they managed to cock up in the week and without trying to put the blame on someone else. (Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault)

God bless.

7 March 2014 21:58  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Louise:

God bless; whatever your decision.

7 March 2014 22:07  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...


By the way Louise, don’t hug teddy too hard. If you arouse him, he’ll only keep you up for half the night {AHEM}.

7 March 2014 22:08  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Oh, come on, Inspector: you don't really believe that old tosh from Louise, do you? I was considering joining a Church of one billion people, but won't now because there might be one bloke in it whom I've never met and wouldn't know if I ran over him in my car, and whom I won't get on with? Even if it were true, do you really think someone as weak-minded as that would be any loss to us? As for Claudio, he makes Blofeld sound articulate, and that's some achievement.

BTW, has it occured to anyone to check what I've said about Christian clergy being physically abused on a regualar basis by Israelis, or would that be an "anti-Semitic" thing to do?

7 March 2014 22:30  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Corrigan. Your anti Israeli stance mystifies this man. No doubt, should you have hundreds of Mr Muslim walking either side of the Liffey, you would reconsider your righteousness.

The Kavanagh twins are really quite sweet. Both need a real man to take care of them and to make their decisions for them. One can see God’s intention there, a companion for man, sure you can too.

One understands the anti Christian sentiment of some Jews in Israel. It is understandable in as much as it is obviously the result of hard line Jews originating from the diaspora who have returned with a chip on their shoulder. The fact that one understands doesn’t mean he approves.


7 March 2014 22:43  
Blogger AnonymousInBelfast said...

Louise:

Corrigan will no doubt implode upon reading that I am not trying to dissuade you from considering entering into full communion with Rome, but I'd say that you may as well ignore him on that score.

I know many Roman Catholics whose faith and conduct is exemplary, not least members of my own family (some of which are [Northern] Irish Catholics, as it happens, Corrigan and Inspector - it's my wife's side that are decent, God-fearing, tolerant "Prods"), and would count several historic Catholics amongst the Christian rolemodels I strive to emulate. If the Lord has called your heart towards Rome, I have no doubt you will hear His voice regardless of Corrigan's hatred, and if He calls you elsewhere, there will be even less reason to give it credence.

7 March 2014 22:45  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Happy Jack popped in for some pleasant conversation - and what did he stumble upon? This will not assist His Grace's funding raising efforts!.

Jack has been doing a little bit of research, as is his wont, and has discovered there is also a good deal of friction within the Jewish community. Some can be quite nasty to one another too. It's hard to get to the bottom of it all because their sites use all sorts of what Jack calls 'Jewish patois'. Nevertheless, it is clear they have their share of extremists and fundamentalists too.

Jack did wonder about becoming a Jew. He is attracted to their 'package' of a 'determinate' sentence after death - a maximum of 12 months. Seems a good deal.

'Foxy Lou', (Jack has his secret sources informing him she is sometimes known by this name), has a lot of thinking to do.

Claudio, welcome back. Happy Jack is pleased to see you are wearing a hat of some sort.

7 March 2014 22:47  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Inspector, there should be no mystery at all regarding my stance on Israel. Zionism is a form of racial supremicism, just the same as apartheid South Africa or the Jim Crow American south. That's all it is. Really, that's it. And there is absolutely no need to apologize for spitting on it. Nor will it answer to tell me that Jewish supremicism is far superior to Muslim oppression. As a Catholic, you must be aware that error has no rights; unfortunately, that doctrine is not pushed much nowadays, but it's still on the books. We'll deal with the Muslims as they come, but that doesn't let the Israelis off the hook, and I resent any country which looks on westerners as something to be farmed and husbanded as you would cattle, notwithstanding that liberal westerners give Israelis plenty of reason to make that assumption.

7 March 2014 22:56  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Happy Jack:

I'm sure a punitive sentence after death - even twelve months - would not apply to you.

Sowers of discord, however; that's another matter.

7 March 2014 22:59  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Corrigan. Racial supremacy is a fact of life. The lesser races in God’s creation guided by the greater. It all comes down to how far the races have evolved in their humanity. Wearing suicide vests and being waved on by their mothers just doesn’t cut it. Embarrassing for you, isn’t it ?

7 March 2014 23:17  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Explorer, a punitive sentence after death? For Christians?

Happy Jack says for Christians this is a divisive issue. And one that a quick synod at Barchester would not solve.

Will Jack receive a sentence after death? We all do. The 'options'? Well, this all depends on whether one accepts the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Church's views on purgatory. And this in turn rests on views about regeneration, grace and salvation.

Alas, neither hobnobs nor plain digestives will facilitate a resolution here on this.

Now, talking of the 'Great Biscuit Synod', Jack has received news that a break-away group in far North has determined a deep fat fried Mars Bar is the definitive and mandatory requirement for all vestry gatherings. They will accept no compromise and have broken from us.

7 March 2014 23:24  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Inspector, Happy Jack says remember these words he posted yesterday:

"Mr. Sands was a convicted criminal. He chose to take his own life. It was a choice that his organisation did not allow to many of its victims."
(Margaret Thatcher)

Injustice and hatred are Satan's breeding ground.

7 March 2014 23:28  
Blogger Waywalker said...

Your Grace

More than happy to donate as your blog provides not only an excellent stream of challenging and informative posts but the comments a splendid mix of humour and insight.

Perhaps you could consider the publication of an anthology of the best of Cramner's Wit and Wisdom to raise funds.

Long may you bless the blogosphere.



7 March 2014 23:36  
Blogger Corrigan said...

It appears, Inspector, that your Catholic blood is considerably thinner than I had supposed. Although not myself above the occasional troll, even I would not make a statement like "The lesser races in God’s creation guided by the greater". What is laughable is that on Cranmer's forum, you will not be taken to task for it by any but the resident "anti-Semite". Funny old world.

8 March 2014 00:49  
Blogger Cressida de Nova said...

Neither Corrigan's anti semitism or the Inspector's racism and misogyny are endorsed by the Catholic Church.These are personal views are contrary to Catholic belief and are sinful.

I cannot imagine how anyone could take Corrigan seriously, offensive though he may be. Anyone w so mentally fragile who can be deterred from embracing the faith because someone like Corrigan is a Catholic is not ready to embrace Catholicism . They have not yet understood the precepts of Catholicism.

I find Corrigan's attack on Belfast more embarrassing than his fanatical ongoing whine about Jews.
Belfast has been supportive of Catholicism on many occasions and his contributions to this blog reflect his considered, fair and intelligent responses to the topics discussed here.

8 March 2014 01:01  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

And what you don't "get" Corrigan, is that there are Christians who believe this is a Biblically based doctrine too. The Inspectors racism, hidden behind "evolved in their humanity", is based on ignorance.

Those are not representative of Christianity. Neither are extreme Jewish groups representative of mainstream Judaism and/or Zionism. And Zionism has a range of different meanings.

8 March 2014 01:05  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Cressida, Happy Jack says you sound very cool when you're cross.

8 March 2014 01:08  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Well, now, Cressida, the Catholic Church is against a lot of things, divorce and remarriage being but two, so if one divorced one's husband and then moved in with another man, we could definitively state that one was in a state of mortal sin. On the other hand, it is merely a matter of personal opinion (and often an opinion formulated for self-serving reasons) that that nice Mr Corrigan is a Jew-hater. It is most unfortunate that ever since the 1960s the "spirit of Vatican II" crowd have been in the ascendent in the Church, and as a result too many have forgotten what it actually means to be Catholic.

8 March 2014 01:11  
Blogger Uncle Brian said...

David Hussell

Just remembered. One of your stops in Galilee will certainly be at Heptapegon (Tabgha), halfway between Capernaum and Magdala (Migdal). Three churches there, within a couple of hundred yards of one another: the Church of the Sermon on the Mount, the Primacy of Peter, and the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes, where the star attraction is the floor with the Byzantine mosaics, including the famous one showing the two fish and a basket of loaves. (I’ve been trying to do a hyperlink for it, but couldn’t get it to work. You can go to Google Images, if you like, and just type in Heptapegon. It’ll show up in the second row.)

A curious point about this mosaic, which I haven’t seen mentioned in any of the guidebooks, is the symbolism. There are only four loaves shown in the basket, instead of five (Mk 6.38). Why only four? The mosaic is placed in front of the altar, at the feet, therefore, of the communicant who has just shuffled to the head of the queue. The fifth loaf is the one the priest is now giving him.

8 March 2014 01:16  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

Corrigan, Happy Jack feels the Christian love in your comments. They're "admonishments", right?

8 March 2014 01:31  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

And Corrigan, Happy Jack asks how "we could definitively state that one was in a state of mortal sin"?

Jack has looked up the conditions necessary for such a sin to be deemed so grievous by Catholic Church. He will not repeat them as you must know them being such a "good Catholic". How can we know whether these were all satisfied - are we their confessors?

8 March 2014 01:43  
Blogger Ivan said...


When you see a man like Ovidia Josef, the first impression is that he is some sort of holdover from the Middle Ages in Cordoba. But the man was a chief rabbi when alive. He had distinctly quaint notions about Gentiles, that when held by Muslim worthies such as al-Sistani, is cause for much breast-beating among the commentariat. He was no kook - although there was a Rabbi Kook with similar views - beachcombing with a couple of followers and a dog, but was a man of such immense popularity and influence in Israel that he was sent off in the biggest funeral yet seen in that country.

Williamson, in Buenos Aires was ordered to dial down by Benedict XVI, harried by the modern inquisition, his computer privileges revoked. Ovidia on the other hand goes off with a bang.


8 March 2014 03:14  
Blogger Claudio said...

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8 March 2014 05:53  
Blogger Claudio said...

As for Claudio, he makes Blofeld sound articulate, and that's some achievement".
Blofeld is probably more catholic (and definitely more christian)than you are,and that's quite an achievement too.I can blame it on the fact I'm not a native speaker and all; what's your excuse?

8 March 2014 05:57  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...


My dear Corrigan, you don’t have to make sense of what lies behind the Inspector, old chap. Anyway, your observations would be politely ignored. You have noticed how you are standing in the field well away from everyone else, haven’t you ?

We’ve been drip fed the illusion of equality for 70 years now. It is neither healthy nor desirable. Nor is there any basis for it in the bible. It is said we are all equal before God, and that we are brothers upon the earth. That’s the extent of it. And as I see the badly dressed English with their stomachs hanging out, and their tattoos on show, I KNOW I am their superior too.

You are embarrassed by "The lesser races in God’s creation guided by the greater", yet you adhere to Roman Catholicism as being the supreme faith on this earth. To such an extent that you feel free to hurl insults around at your will. Even I would not behave like that.


8 March 2014 11:22  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Cressida. No names as we don’t want to jeopardise the trial. There is a lad in custody charged with murdering his girlfriend. She had gone to lengths to get it into his head that the relationship was over. It could be construed that he murdered her so no one else would have her. THAT is misogyny. Your hurt feelings from our previous encounters are just that, hurt feelings. They are not the result of misogyny.

As for the accusation of racism, this man has no hate in his heart for anyone. Indeed, he would like to HELP the unfortunate. The unfortunate being in this context, types whose behaviour comes in at well below that which he considers to be worthy of humanity.


8 March 2014 11:35  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Myself, I've never felt the Catholic/Protestant divide as a significant gap compared with the Christian/secular divide or the Christian-Muslim/Hindu/New Age divide.

When Catholics write on this blog, I am generally aware only of fellow Christians. (With, of course, the odd regrettable exception.)

8 March 2014 11:50  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

WHY DID THE JEWISH CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD?

Thomas de Torquemada/ Old Corrigan: Just give us ten minutes with the chicken and we'll find out.


Blofeld

ps

At the evening Blog service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is Hell really like?" Come early and listen to Old Corrigan and find out.

*Sniggers*

8 March 2014 12:36  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

An angel appears to the head writer of the St Aquinas Philosophy Department and says, "I'll grant you whichever of three blessings you choose. Wisdom, beauty, or ten million pounds."

Immediately, Old Jim chooses the wisdom of all philosophy.

There is a flash of lightning, the old fella is transformed, but then he just sits there, staring down at his laptop on the table.

One of his colleagues whispers, "You now have great wisdom, Old Jim. Say something long and profound!"

The old fella can only say, "I should really have taken the money, you know!" *Titters and Chuckles*

Ernsty

8 March 2014 12:43  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

"A doctor at St. Dymphna care home, takes his first rounds of the day at the asylum.

He goes up to the first patient he sees and asks, "Who do you think you are?" The patient replied, "I, sir, am Pope Pius XII !"

"And how do you know you are Pope Pius XII' and not Corrigan, as detailed on your admission records here" asked the doctor.

The patient replied, "Because God told me so."

Then, from across the room, another patient yelled, "I... DID... NOT!!!"

Blofeld

8 March 2014 12:57  
Blogger The Explorer said...

On the other hand, Blowers, with reference to the David B thread I don't know a Protestant on this blog (or off it) who could have made a better case against sociobiology than Old Jim did,

8 March 2014 13:07  
Blogger Corrigan said...

It mystifies me, Inspector, why you should think isolation on this forum would be problematical to me, especially coming from someone who makes deliberate efforts to place himself in that position. As the the supremacy of the Catholic Church, you surely must know that it's one thing to support the spritual, philosophical and theological superiority of a particular institution and quite another to hold that membership of that institution in and of itself renders one superior to other human beings. The former is, of course, the postition of the Catholic Church; the latter is the postion of Zionism, and as such flies squarely in the face of Catholic doctrine - as do your views on "lesser races". If I subscribed to this latter view, I would be entitled to go around to Cranmer's house, eject him by main force, and help myself to the scenic views, the golf clubs and the portrait of Great Uncle Cuthbert. I don't, because it is no part of Catholicism that someone can be robbed, beaten or killed, or that his life can be controlled or directed by others, merely because he is not "one of us". That was established at least 400 years ago by Catholic theologians in Spain, horrified by the actions of their countrymen in the New World: you cannot depose a native ruler for no other reason than because he is not Christian. By the same token, you cannot dispossess a Palestinian for no other reason than because he is not a Jew, and the reason you cannot is because his rights vest in his personhood, not in his membership of this or that institution.

As a matter of fact, my own views on these matters have been hardening in the last few years because of the presence of a large number of African priests passing through the Carmelite church where I regularly confess. These men are much less likely to let breaches of doctrine pass unchallanged than native-born white priests whom, by your lights, would be superior. Well, these "inferior" beings have shamed me into being a better Catholic than I ever was before they came. It's just a pity that after forty years of "the spirit of Vatican II" most of the native European Catholics have completely forgotten why we used to be so hated in the past: it's because we make others feel uncomfortable. Sound familiar?

8 March 2014 13:09  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Hello Sister Tiberia/Belfast/Claudio/Explorer,

Thank you for your comments and for those of yo who provides links to other sites, thanks. I'll reflect and think on all of this, I appreciate that this isn't the forum to 'explore' stuff as everyone here has a fixed and absolute understanding of what they believe and are prepared to argued with anyone who doesn't agree with them.I'll read here, but seek out appropriate forums and continue my discussions offline.

Inspector,

Teddy is fine thank you.

Happy Jack,

Erm, yes, I'll been called that by someone trying to chat me up. Didn't work though!

Cressida De Nova,

'[Someone who] is not ready to embrace Catholicism . They have not yet understood the precepts of Catholicism.'

I'd agree there 100% . I'm in no rush to go head long into something which I will regret later on, wherever I am led, it won't be because of some emotive pull or push.

8 March 2014 13:21  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles,

LOL! You are such a wonderful tonic to this site, with your humour and wit. You should be this blog's mascot!

8 March 2014 13:30  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Corrigan,

None of what you say above justifies or explains your terrible attitude towards Jews. The mask slipped at bit when you referred to 'Jewish supremicism'. You were attacking others here before that for conflating Zionisim and Judaism. As for 'any one that weak willed is of no value to us'. Perhaps not to 'us', but I think I'm valued by God.

8 March 2014 13:30  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Inspector :

'The Kavanagh twins are really quite sweet'

I'll pass on that complement to my older cousins (once removed).

8 March 2014 13:31  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Sorry, Louise, but that dog won't fight. Zionism IS Jewish supremecism; that is it's definition, and it's why I won't stand down. If any Jew believes him- or herself superior by dint of being a Jew, my attitude to that person will remain appalling, and I would not hold your breath waiting for either qualification or apology.

8 March 2014 14:01  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

"E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles .... You should be this blog's mascot!2

Please do not encourage the old rogue.


You are the Doctor! You are the enemy of the Daleks!

'EX-TER-MIN-ATE!'

8 March 2014 14:20  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

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8 March 2014 14:20  
Blogger Happy Jack said...

"E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles .... You should be this blog's mascot!"

Please! Do not encourage the old rogue. Once he gets his contraception from the DLA he'll be travelling about as if he's the Dalek Supreme.

Dalek Supreme Blofelt

"You are the Catholics! You are the enemy of the Daleks!

EX-TER-MIN-ATE!
YOU WILL OH-BEY!

Rebels of Rome! This is my last warning! My final offer! Show yourselves in the open streets.

The Daleks offer you life!

Rebel against us and the Daleks shall destroy Rome completely.

Rebels of Rome, come out of your hiding places. The Daleks offer you life!"


"They cannot escape!
They will be exterminated!

Exterminated!
Exterminated!

No power in the universe can stop the Daleks!"


*chuckle*

8 March 2014 14:37  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

YG
You should start a crowd funding campaign. I'm sure you can create a web page for this on Microsoft Front Page or something, publish it to web and link it to yr blog now so that people can have more info about your project and how much you need to achieve to engage professionals etc.. Old George Galloway is or has crowd funded his new film “The Killing of Tony Blair” (great title) so he could give you a few tips. He's raised £163,891 with 4459 backers. See here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/22595538/the-killing-of-tony-blair



Your blog as it is good, don't go spoiling it with too many adverts and trash or those in your face flashing stuff that cause eye strain and headaches as you're trying to read one thing whilst something else plays away on the other side of the screen and you can't turn it off.

8 March 2014 16:37  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

Corrigan. It is rather telling that you consider superiority to be a militaristic stance. Nothing the Inspector has posted has ever reflected that. His idea of superiority is borne out by your Africans belonging to the Carmelite order. They are under the rule of a religious order that has it roots in the European way, and has its modus operandi accordingly. The Africans are safer here to follow their calling as presumably if the were to be studying in a seminary in their home country, they would be at risk of being robbed, beaten or killed as you say.

Of course we understand why Africa is like that, because the lesser races are in control. Well, when saying ‘we’, you are not with us. You seem to believe of an inviolable connection between the soil and the indigenous people who currently dwell on it.

Anyway, one believes this. Superiority is an attractive trait, and is no doubt the main driving force of alien immigration to England, especially London. Such is the disdain of the superior human as you might put it, these people really can’t get close enough to the centre of it all...

Finally, ever heard of Master Sergeant Samuel Doe, of Liberia. He was a tin pot dictator who seized power there, who was in turn toppled himself.
And his fate ? Well, there’s no easy way to put this – his opponents ate him. Such is the way of the lesser races. Though you won’t agree, of course. Their soil, their rules and all that...

8 March 2014 16:44  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Explorer

Ariel I Roth answers the arguments of Sociobiology for those who like simplicity and science rather than waffling complexity through pseudo scientific philosophy?

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b822UoOvP3MC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=god+opposed+to+sociobiology&source=bl&ots=3ZMnvUrp53&sig=nyTjHwHESncIanky6n7dZePE2K8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Wk4bU6OaGsSrhAenrIDwCQ&ved=0CHkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=god%20opposed%20to%20sociobiology&f=false
From page 193 onwards!!

There is a fine answer on this site below for the truth seeking atheist/secularist that does not pretend there are not some discrepancies in a young earth model but looks at things as they are!
http://www.christiananswers.net/creation/people/roth-a.html

Old Ernst prefers the wisdom of God to the philosophical ramblings of men, that lead nobody to Christ...It merely whiles away the precious amounts of time we have here on this planet to learn about our God.

Ernst has never seen the Apostles teaching comparison from paganistic philosophy..merely the Word of God Himself.

Blofeld

8 March 2014 17:26  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Hi Happy Jack

As a via media, perhaps E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles, could be joint Mascot with Inspector General in the Ordinary?

8 March 2014 17:28  
Blogger Corrigan said...

The European way, Inspector? Until Catholicism pulled Europe out of it, the European way was as savage and barbarous as anything done by or to Master Sergeant Doe, unless you're planning to expunge gladiatorial games, Viking atrocities, the Franks, the Goths and those stout hearted Saxons the English are so proud of out of history. The superiority comes from the Catholicism, not the ethnicity.

8 March 2014 17:34  
Blogger Inspector General in Ordinary said...

I say Corrigan, before you drag Camelot into it, you might wish to keep it real, as they say.

It’s the here and now, old chap. The here and now...

8 March 2014 17:41  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Louise Kavanagh said...

E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles,

LOL! You are such a wonderful tonic to this site, with your humour and wit. You should be this blog's mascot!"

Dear Louise

Just enjoy the odd Ramblings of Old Ernsty whilst he is still here and allowed/tolerated by His Nibs'..
As the Psalms say;

Man is like a mere breath; His days are like a passing shadow.

Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah.


old Ernst

8 March 2014 17:42  
Blogger Corrigan said...

Oh, then there's some actual physiological difference between the Africans of today and the Europeans of 1500 years ago?

8 March 2014 17:42  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Happy Jack said...

"E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles .... You should be this blog's mascot!"

Please! Do not encourage the old rogue. Once he gets his contraception from the DLA he'll be travelling about as if he's the Dalek Supreme."

Old Blowers does hope that was a typo and you meant 'contraption'...*Huge Titters*

Blowers

8 March 2014 17:45  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Blowers (& Tiddles) & 17:26

Mars Hill? 'Titus' 1:12: 'It was said by a Cretan prophet...' The quotation from Epimenides? Paul's mockery of the Epicureans in '1 Corinthians'?

I have never contended that argument, philosophical or otherwise, will of itself bring sceptics to faith. It may, however, reduce obstacles to unbelief so that the Spirit may work.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is no role for the likes of Alvin Plantinga or William Lane Craig?

8 March 2014 17:49  
Blogger Louise Kavanagh said...

Hi Blowers,

I shall always enjoy reading your ramblings,I was brought up to respect my elders! 'Whilst you are still here'. Well I always light a candle and say a prayer for you, with all of your health problems. And so does David, when he puts his beach towel over his head and puts his , cube thingy on his head and has his leather straps on over his arm...

8 March 2014 17:52  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Louise:

I enjoy Blowers' ramblings too.

Quite often, I agree with them.

8 March 2014 18:02  
Blogger The Explorer said...

Blowers is probably bringing up his heavy artillery to bombard my position and enforce a retreat.

8 March 2014 18:10  
Blogger The Explorer said...

The calm before the barricade begins.

8 March 2014 18:18  

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